123: Try, Try Again

Filed under: Podcasts — marina December 3, 2007 @ 12:23 am

Voice mails from Weegie and Matt, Comments from Katy and a lot of jump cuts because we kept fucking up.

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Can I just say that I love your show? It always makes my day.

Comment by Chritiaan Huygens — December 3, 2007 @ 5:05 pm
Yo, I got the stomach flu and my phone fell in a bowl of puke (yuck, I know), but the point is, I need you to email me your phone number. I’ll email you my new phone number when I get it.

I disagree with you–I think referring to the receptive partner as a bitch or a whore is misogynistic. AND homophobic! It still buys into the idea that guys who get fucked are like women, and that being like a woman is BAD! I mean, the receptive partner isn’t telling the guy who’s fucking him, “Yeah, you love that ass, you whore!” you know? There’s still this idea that the person who gets fucked (woman, receptive gay male, whatever) is in a humiliating position that’s really fucked up, like just being fucked is a humiliation in and of itself. And calling the person you’re fucking a bitch or a whore both points out and exasterbates that humiliation. I agree with Ben–calling your partner a whore or a bitch is entirely to demean them. Whether or not you find it demeaning to be fucked, other people do, and that’s what the name-calling is all about.

Physically different =/= physiologically different, Ben! ‘Masculine’ and ‘feminine’ refers to gender, which is socialization, while ‘male’ and ‘female’ refers to sex, which is biological. Even the things that seem to be related to biology (like mothers’ attachment to children) can be explained by socialization (babies spend most of their early hours with their mothers, but if they spend most of their early hours with their fathers, the same chemical reaction will form).

Oh, please, Marina. I’m not sure where you’re getting that from, but sweet worshipful sex is NOT the norm or even the sex we’re told we’re supposed to aspire to. People learn from porn, dude. Guys are getting (but not giving) head in middle school; anal is the new oral and dudes don’t feel like they have to be sweet and respectful about it–did you read that article on anal sex that was in some men’s magazine a while ago, where they basically advocated getting girls drunk and slipping it in? Please. Porn culture is mainstream, dude; egalitarian sex is underground, dude.

Hah, Ben mentioning House reminds me of the early days of this podcast when you guys mentioned House in every single podcast.

Sorry Ben! I support masturbation!

Comment by Katy — December 3, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
The socially constructed differences between men and women are a lot greater than the physical differences. Society will be much better off when we recognize and remedy this.

Comment by Rebecca Nay — December 4, 2007 @ 5:49 pm